Curse

Poda · Mar 23, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

My take:

1 - Customizable prebuilds are useless (please explain if I'm wrong), You could pick a prebuild and change it, you don't have to go with what they suggest. You can change the skills and stat points around.

2 - Don't really care for this one.

3 - A my builds menu would be awesome

4 - I like a lot. I love to test many different builds and now that the battle isles are added, it makes it even more troublesome to constantly travel from the pvp arenas - to lions arch - to seeker's passage - back to the great temple of balthazzar - back to pvp arena of choice.

5 - Everything would be customized. Runes might present a problem, they could either be customized, or can only be used directly from the vault it self via double clicking. Pvp Chars only. Just add an extra option to the Pvp Xunlai agents as to which stash you want to acces. If Anet doesn't want to specifically add a vault, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to add another menu that of course, will only work with pvp characters.

6 - Kinda goes hand in hand with #5. I like the idea of a vault. Just "replace" the runes.

musefanalert · Mar 23, 2006, 09:20 AM // 09:20

I just think that we should be able to save our own builds over the prebuilds, would make life so much quicker

Chev of Hardass · Mar 23, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Poda

My take:

1 - Customizable prebuilds are useless (please explain if I'm wrong), You could pick a prebuild and change it, you don't have to go with what they suggest. You can change the skills and stat points around.

So, you obviously don't rebuilds the same characters over and over each night.

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Originally Posted by Poda

2 - Don't really care for this one.

?? Just an odd point?

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Originally Posted by Poda

3 - A my builds menu would be awesome

Now it makes sense. Boy I sure hope you can tell me about how you had this great idea on how you could save buidls on your PvE characters.

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Originally Posted by Poda

4 - I like a lot. I love to test many different builds and now that the battle isles are added, it makes it even more troublesome to constantly travel from the pvp arenas - to lions arch - to seeker's passage - back to the great temple of balthazzar - back to pvp arena of choice.

How does this complaint have anything to do with my suggestion?

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Originally Posted by Poda

5 - Everything would be customized. Runes might present a problem, they could either be customized, or can only be used directly from the vault it self via double clicking. Pvp Chars only. Just add an extra option to the Pvp Xunlai agents as to which stash you want to acces. If Anet doesn't want to specifically add a vault, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to add another menu that of course, will only work with pvp characters.

Ohh I see a half cooked suggestion stuck in an incorrect thread where you try and hijack the thread.

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Originally Posted by Poda

6 - Kinda goes hand in hand with #5. I like the idea of a vault. Just "replace" the runes.

WTF was that point? In fact why did you make points at all, this is just one long paragraph. You don't even seperate your post into real points.

Please people, if you would like to see customizeable prebuilds, or have an idea that has not been presented here about customizing the prebuilds, post. If you are the nth person to have the "great" idea of saving builds on PvE characters, go find that thread and celebrate how super and idea that is.

Chev of Hardass · Mar 23, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by musefanalert

I just think that we should be able to save our own builds over the prebuilds, would make life so much quicker

I agree, I tend tend to remake the same characters over and over, still. I may make different characters over and over than when I started this thread, but still I would like the ability to save my own prebuilds, I still do not use the ones that are there, and we still have not gotten any updates to the pre-builds.

So, all those prebuilt characters at the, suddenly super laggy character creation screen, never get used. Seems like a waste to me.

Chev of Hardass · Mar 23, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by mariano

But as it is closed, now all these ideas have to be discussed here together, this allows a comparison.

The reason that thread was closed, is because it was the last of dozens of threads like it.

It is incomplete, not well presented, and unorigional. If you want to look into othe ways to save builds, I suggest you use a search button, and if you like an idea, reply to it.

shardfenix · Mar 24, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

/signed

I only have 1 char slot left (until factions is released) and I get tired of making my monk, then my necro, then my monk, then my necro for pvp.

mariano · Mar 25, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

Please people, if you would like to see customizeable prebuilds, or have an idea that has not been presented here about customizing the prebuilds, post. If you are the nth person to have the "great" idea of saving builds on PvE characters, go find that thread and celebrate how super and idea that is.

Chev of Hardass, "that thread" (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=139484) has a link to your thread and the my builds subject seems to me to have to be treated within this thread that you started.

And, this "my builds" and other points do not have to be just with PvE!, because, if you are able to change everything from secondary profession to runes in your already made PvP character you are not going to need to rebuild it!

I think, that the idea of having customizable prebuilds would still be interesting if you are changing often between more than 4 professions, ... why? because, character's slots number is limited to 4 (will be 6 in Factions) ; but, if you play with 4 professions or less, not having to rebuild characters -just to change a secondary, or a rune, or a weapon, ... is a much better solution!

Poda is commenting on the points I stated in my answer in this thread, I stated those points to clarify the thread's subjects.

So please, be aware of this.

mariano · Mar 25, 2006, 11:54 AM // 11:54

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

/signed

I only have 1 char slot left (until factions is released) and I get tired of making my monk, then my necro, then my monk, then my necro for pvp.

I agree that having customizable prebuilds is a way to solve the problem of not having as many character slots as one would like.

Nevertheless, there is the view that: if there are 4 slots, and one's greater needs are for PvP characters, then 1 slot may be for a PvE character and 3 for PvP characters, it depends in which kind of game is more often played!

If one feels that 4 slots (or 6 in Factions) is not enough, and there is a need for a greater number of character slots, this might be a different subject, the subject of a thread about number of character slots.

Snograt · Apr 01, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

I started a thread which was deemed too similar to this topic, so it was closed.

My idea was this: Skill Bar Presets tied to Weapon Slots.

The simplest example of this would be a warrior having an axe in slot one; sword in two; hammer in three.

Select weapon slot one and your skillbar changes to your already defined axe-centric skillbar.

I feel the possibilities for this are limitless.

Just a minor flash of inspiration? Or was it bad pizza?

Chev of Hardass · Apr 02, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Snograt

I started a thread which was deemed too similar to this topic, so it was closed.

My idea was this: Skill Bar Presets tied to Weapon Slots.

The simplest example of this would be a warrior having an axe in slot one; sword in two; hammer in three.

Select weapon slot one and your skillbar changes to your already defined axe-centric skillbar.

I feel the possibilities for this are limitless.

Just a minor flash of inspiration? Or was it bad pizza?

What you are suggesting is 8 skills for each weapon slot, so 4 weapon slots means 48 skill slots.

I just don't see how that could ever work.

Snograt · Apr 02, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

What you are suggesting is 8 skills for each weapon slot, so 4 weapon slots means 48 skill slots.

I just don't see how that could ever work.

Aargh. The perils of posting whilst tired

I meant to say that you could only change weapons/skillsets whilst IN A TOWN!

Wow, imagine GvG with 48 skills [shudder]

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass
What you are suggesting is 8 skills for each weapon slot, so 4 weapon slots means 48 skill slots.

Hang on, is my math squiffy or is it you? ^^

MasterDinadan · Apr 02, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

To add to the idea, I think you should be able to create a Pre-Build scroll, that stores the data of what skills you have and what attributes.
Then, you can give the scroll to another player and they can click it and their skills and attributes are all set to that build (but only if they are the right profession have the skills)
This way, a guild leader could create a bunch of a builds for the members to use, and hand out scrolls for them... It would be easier to coordinate your skills if one person could pick out everyone's skills at the start, right?

It would certainly be easier than everyone asking "Should I bring this skill? Or this skill? etc..." and it allows the players to bring skills that work well with skills that OTHER players bring, instead of relying on one's self individually

Maxiemonster · Apr 02, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

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Yarrick · Apr 02, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

/signed for My Builds Menu... I have to change at least 3 builds with my ele so I think My Builds Menu would make that much easyer.

Poda · Apr 03, 2006, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

So, you obviously don't rebuilds the same characters over and over each night.

I misread the initial meaning, I thought that that the cusomizable prebuilds were the pvp prebuilds, which you can already edit, making "customizable prebuilds" useless. I realize the mistake I made, and think it's a great idea for I too do not use the current existing pre-builds unless they have a skill I need and don't have.

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

Now it makes sense. Boy I sure hope you can tell me about how you had this great idea on how you could save buidls on your PvE characters.

I know I did not originate this idea, I never stated I did. I just stated that I have also thought of it. Tracing the originater is impossible seeing as how each person has thousands of random thoughts each day. It was something I thought of in passing, and something i'm sure 92% of other people may have thought of and just let it go.

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

How does this complaint have anything to do with my suggestion?

It's not a complaint. It's something that would be changed with the addition of profession changers. It's really a small price to pay and it's not something I dwell over. And it has nothing to do with your original suggestion. But your original suggestion isn't the only thing in this post, look at what Rikimaru and Kai Nui and Xerxoz say, it's enough to influence a train of thought over time they are "suggestions". I also was not posting that in response to your initial post, it was in respose to what marciano summed up. Which also contains the initial idea. Number 1. The rest are other ideas that came up in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

Ohh I see a half cooked suggestion stuck in an incorrect thread where you try and hijack the thread.

Umm....I sorry you feel this way. I had no intentions of highjacking anything in fact, it doesn't even start with me. Post never stay on topic, they weave in and out like conversation. By the time I made my first post here, I had all the other ideas and suggestions floating around in my head.

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Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

WTF was that point? In fact why did you make points at all, this is just one long paragraph. You don't even seperate your post into real points.

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Originally Posted by mariano

Poda is commenting on the points I stated in my answer in this thread, I stated those points to clarify the thread's subjects.

So please, be aware of this.

Exactly, i'm sorry if this was unclear.

Now, everything else aside.

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Originally Posted by musefanalert

I just think that we should be able to save our own builds over the prebuilds, would make life so much quicker

/signed

Lepton CFd · May 06, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

/signed

I'm not sure if I'd vote for (6) though from mariano's post...but definitely anything to do with saving builds/secondary profession changer

Tarun · May 22, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

/signed

Kronos Raven · May 23, 2006, 12:43 AM // 00:43

well since the additional skill bar was closed and this was the redirect, I would like to voice my opinion on the skill bar issue.

As with the ability to switch Weapons via the weapon panel, why not tie the skill bar to the weapon switching?

That way you can maximize the setup, ie packing a Hammer have Warrior Skills that promote the use of that weapon. Or elementist packing staffs for fire then they can have a fire skills available with that setup then when they switch to a Water based weapon the skill switch to water based skill to help maximize that roll of the character.

I think with skill sets that change with weapon sets the character can maximize it roll to it's fullest. and if someone yells about the attribs then set them the same way or the the character must be balance if the player wants to have different setups.

/signed

reverse_oreo · May 23, 2006, 04:41 AM // 04:41

i have signed the other 2500 threads like this before.... ANET DO THIS! if there was one thing in this game i would want, it is this. Instead of letting the winning team of the tourney make more crappy prebuilds, give us customs!

/signed x 20000000000000

Chev of Hardass · May 23, 2006, 06:48 AM // 06:48

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Originally Posted by reverse_oreo

Instead of letting the winning team of the tourney make more crappy prebuilds

Have they even done this? NO

I am sure they will add some other stupid thing to the game, but something the people want? Yea right.